green_card
07-17 07:22 PM
Cant repeat this enough times.... you guys rock !!!!!!!
I mean, its one thing to see it happen in the movies but this group has taken on Goliath and has won a major battle. There is still a long road ahead but the combined efforts of lobbying, rallies and the flower campaign (also the threat of a lawsuit, cant forget that one) has brought fruits to our efforts. pappu, Logiclife and all others of the core group, hats off.
I BOW. WELL DONE IV TEAM. YOU HAVE MADE US PROUD!!
I mean, its one thing to see it happen in the movies but this group has taken on Goliath and has won a major battle. There is still a long road ahead but the combined efforts of lobbying, rallies and the flower campaign (also the threat of a lawsuit, cant forget that one) has brought fruits to our efforts. pappu, Logiclife and all others of the core group, hats off.
I BOW. WELL DONE IV TEAM. YOU HAVE MADE US PROUD!!
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Prasad_FL
07-17 10:11 PM
I am new a new member of this website. You did excellent job and thanks a lot for your sincere efforts and coordination. I am inspired and contributed $100
rangaswamy
07-06 06:35 PM
Can some one provide me a template that i can send?
Should briefly cover the actual issue and also the idea of sending flowers.
Please send me a private message if i missed this in the other threads.
Anand
Should briefly cover the actual issue and also the idea of sending flowers.
Please send me a private message if i missed this in the other threads.
Anand
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sabhayk
05-21 02:39 PM
Guys,
My lawyer applied for my visa an 23rd Apr under the masters cap. I haven't received The receipt yet. I am wondering if there is anyone on the similar lines. Please reply or is it only me with one such case. I know USCIS has said that they need till 2nd June to resolve the situation. My case is with the vermont center.
I also have my OPT case pending there. It was filed in the first week of May. I have been told that it takes around 90 days for it but sometimes it also takes place early. Please advise.
Thanks
Sabhay
My lawyer applied for my visa an 23rd Apr under the masters cap. I haven't received The receipt yet. I am wondering if there is anyone on the similar lines. Please reply or is it only me with one such case. I know USCIS has said that they need till 2nd June to resolve the situation. My case is with the vermont center.
I also have my OPT case pending there. It was filed in the first week of May. I have been told that it takes around 90 days for it but sometimes it also takes place early. Please advise.
Thanks
Sabhay
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YesGC_NoGC
12-19 10:13 AM
Come one everyone...
venugv
07-17 07:35 PM
I am really proud to be part of the IV team. I am also proud of the fact that I am one among the few thousands to take part in the flower campaign and in the rally at San Jose. Kudos to us all!:)
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npatel
04-25 08:05 AM
I completed my MS in Computer Science from US around 6 years back, was on OPT for a year & thereafter moved out of US and came back to my home town. Have been working here for 6 years now as in the software field & have now applied for H1B under masters Quota. Was wondering if I am eligible to apply under this quota as I am neither a fresh graduate nor have any status in the US. Also, my lawyer has only filled out the I-129 form. Is there any special form that needs to be filled out to be considered for Master's quota?
Please reply�
You are eligible to apply under masters quota. There is no special form for the masters cap. However, lets hope that your attorney has checked the box of h1b for "US Masters" and send application to USCIS with ATTN: H-1B U.S. Masters Cap
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=3df261151e821110VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=fe529c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
Please reply�
You are eligible to apply under masters quota. There is no special form for the masters cap. However, lets hope that your attorney has checked the box of h1b for "US Masters" and send application to USCIS with ATTN: H-1B U.S. Masters Cap
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=3df261151e821110VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=fe529c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
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seahawks
04-12 01:05 PM
We all understand the EB immigration system currently as is needs to be fixed. We need to recognize this problem first. What I don't understand is most of the people I talk to about issues do not recognize the problem or are willing to accept it as is. They don't seem to be motivated in supporting IV from volunteering or providing financial support. If you look at this forum, take the amount of people who are registered and the amount of people who actually bring tangible value to this organization. What is in those few that we don't have? Let us all recognize that there is a problem first and lets think about ways to mobilize and spend energy in one direction set by IV.
Yes, we may not agree with every solution, but let us focus and believe that something will happen, if we all try together!
Yes, we may not agree with every solution, but let us focus and believe that something will happen, if we all try together!
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casinoroyale
02-07 09:13 PM
Ok, i had the same problem.
Surname: blank
Given Name: First Last.
But in all US documents had it correctly distinguished. Recently when i renewed my passport i got it fixed at NY. You DO NOT NEED a news paper ad for this kind of change. I went to NY Indian consulate personally to ask this question as no one was lifting the phone. The person over there gave me a special form to fill it out and get it notarized. I did all of that and they printed the name correctly. Another guy had same problem, he did not even filled out that form, but they corrected his name as well. I was surprised how lenient these guys are.
Me and the other guy were joking on the way back in train because they did it for him without the special application, its like they don't care what name you have, " do you want Tom Cruise, i will write Tom Cruise - no problem at all, or even better, we will give you passports with empty name column, you fill it up with whatever you want :) "
Don't worry guys, this change is easy and this does not impact 485 as well, as long as you have always reported your correct name in your other USCIS documents. THEY KNOW that internationals have their names goofed up in their passports. Its not new for them.
Hope this helps.
Surname: blank
Given Name: First Last.
But in all US documents had it correctly distinguished. Recently when i renewed my passport i got it fixed at NY. You DO NOT NEED a news paper ad for this kind of change. I went to NY Indian consulate personally to ask this question as no one was lifting the phone. The person over there gave me a special form to fill it out and get it notarized. I did all of that and they printed the name correctly. Another guy had same problem, he did not even filled out that form, but they corrected his name as well. I was surprised how lenient these guys are.
Me and the other guy were joking on the way back in train because they did it for him without the special application, its like they don't care what name you have, " do you want Tom Cruise, i will write Tom Cruise - no problem at all, or even better, we will give you passports with empty name column, you fill it up with whatever you want :) "
Don't worry guys, this change is easy and this does not impact 485 as well, as long as you have always reported your correct name in your other USCIS documents. THEY KNOW that internationals have their names goofed up in their passports. Its not new for them.
Hope this helps.
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rayudu
04-09 09:54 AM
I am going to file my h1 application tomorrow under the master's qouta. I know its nearly impossible that my petition would be approved but I have no other choice. I just have one question:
1. Should I go for a premium processing?
<<My OPT expires may 15th and my employer is still willing to file my h1 tomorrow. If I go for premium processing, that will atleast stop me from getting an admit into a community college this fall to maintain my status>>
Advice please. Also there is no way they will increase the h1b on the master's qouta, right ?
I think you need to wait until USCIS finish they Lottery/Sorting process.
At this moment they won't accept your application.
Please contact your Lawyer for accurate information
1. Should I go for a premium processing?
<<My OPT expires may 15th and my employer is still willing to file my h1 tomorrow. If I go for premium processing, that will atleast stop me from getting an admit into a community college this fall to maintain my status>>
Advice please. Also there is no way they will increase the h1b on the master's qouta, right ?
I think you need to wait until USCIS finish they Lottery/Sorting process.
At this moment they won't accept your application.
Please contact your Lawyer for accurate information
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sanju_dba
12-19 02:07 PM
Just sent in my 20.
Thank you so much to the person who started this thread and all the contributions. I hope this will keep going and going and going. I was definitely motivated and inspired by everyone's contributions!:)
Same here, Contributed my $20 !
Thank you so much to the person who started this thread and all the contributions. I hope this will keep going and going and going. I was definitely motivated and inspired by everyone's contributions!:)
Same here, Contributed my $20 !
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starlite
07-21 12:00 PM
I am new to this forum, so I am joining this tread.
Hello,
I worked up nerves to consult with the forum.
Please read my history and answer questions below.
Your non-judgmental and objective answers are greatly appreciated.
I first came to the US on a tourist visa when I was 15 years old.
I was out of status when my parents couldn't act fast enough to change my status. However, I faithfully maintained my status once I reentered with a student visa.
So here is the history:
Dec. 1986: Enter the US on a tourist visa (age 15)
June 1987: Out of status from the tourist visa for 10 years
Sept. 1996: IIRIRA 96 passes-- 3yr./10yr. reentry bars apply effective April 1, 1997
July 1997: Obtain I-20 for school, leave the US and return to home country (age 26)
Aug. 1997: Reenter US on a F-1 visa
Oct. 00: Initial H-1B
Oct. 03: H-1B extension
Dec.04: RIR filed (priority date)
Sept.06: RIR approved
Oct. 06: H-1B (7th year) extension
Jan. 07: I-140 filed (pending approval)
July 21, 2007: Preparing to file I-485 with the same employer since 2000
So here are my questions:
Q1. The way I interpret the law is that the 3yr./10yr. reentry bars apply when the law went into effect starting April 1997. Is that correct?
Q2. If so, would I have to worry about getting the I-485 approved?
Q3. If not, should I filed for I-485 at all?
Q4. Any suggestions or possiblities to consider?
Thank you.
Hello,
I worked up nerves to consult with the forum.
Please read my history and answer questions below.
Your non-judgmental and objective answers are greatly appreciated.
I first came to the US on a tourist visa when I was 15 years old.
I was out of status when my parents couldn't act fast enough to change my status. However, I faithfully maintained my status once I reentered with a student visa.
So here is the history:
Dec. 1986: Enter the US on a tourist visa (age 15)
June 1987: Out of status from the tourist visa for 10 years
Sept. 1996: IIRIRA 96 passes-- 3yr./10yr. reentry bars apply effective April 1, 1997
July 1997: Obtain I-20 for school, leave the US and return to home country (age 26)
Aug. 1997: Reenter US on a F-1 visa
Oct. 00: Initial H-1B
Oct. 03: H-1B extension
Dec.04: RIR filed (priority date)
Sept.06: RIR approved
Oct. 06: H-1B (7th year) extension
Jan. 07: I-140 filed (pending approval)
July 21, 2007: Preparing to file I-485 with the same employer since 2000
So here are my questions:
Q1. The way I interpret the law is that the 3yr./10yr. reentry bars apply when the law went into effect starting April 1997. Is that correct?
Q2. If so, would I have to worry about getting the I-485 approved?
Q3. If not, should I filed for I-485 at all?
Q4. Any suggestions or possiblities to consider?
Thank you.
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sugaur
12-09 04:01 PM
I certainly expected a better articulated reply than a brilliant one-liner.
Anyways, not sure why you are so hung up on the person being illegal so she deserves what she got line. You may have to step back and look at what the larger trend here is. You and I can be the next target (see slippery slope article below).
Here are the underlying reasons for the outrage apart from the basic indecency of shackling a pregnant woman:
Wonk Room � Sheriff Joe Arpaio Admits Clothing, Speech, And Conduct Help Determine If Someone Is �Illegal� (http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/08/joe-arpaio-287g/)
Wonk Room � Joe Arpaio: �Illegals� Are �All Dirty,� Should Be �Checked� Like �Fruits and Vegetables� (http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/09/joe-arpaio-gq-magazine/)
Arpaio Racial Profiling Accusations | Criteria for Determining Illegal Status? (http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/phoenix/sheriff_racial_profiling_accusations_10_20_2009)
Immigration -- Arpaio's Abuse Of Power (http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2009/11/pr20091103)
Here is why it is a slippery slope>
New Study Finds Dramatic Problems with 287(g) Immigration Program | ACLU of North Carolina (http://acluofnc.org/?q=new-study-finds-dramatic-problems-287g-immigration-program)
Increase in unsolved crimes >
http://www.goldwaterinstitute.org/Common/Img/052109%20Bolick%20Justice%20Denied.pdf
In addition to moral blindness, your visual impairment also seems to extend to the physical realm preventing you from even reading the responses to your post.
And you need to do better than just posting links to ACLU and other left leaning websites if you want to forcibly argue your point. Somebody in this forum was pointing out how the majority here seem to favor illegal immigrants. Let me point out that Apraio was elected democratically in 1996, 2000, 2004 and 2008. Apparently voters in his county have a different point of view about illegal immigrants and have no problems voting him again repeatedly.
Anyways, not sure why you are so hung up on the person being illegal so she deserves what she got line. You may have to step back and look at what the larger trend here is. You and I can be the next target (see slippery slope article below).
Here are the underlying reasons for the outrage apart from the basic indecency of shackling a pregnant woman:
Wonk Room � Sheriff Joe Arpaio Admits Clothing, Speech, And Conduct Help Determine If Someone Is �Illegal� (http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/08/joe-arpaio-287g/)
Wonk Room � Joe Arpaio: �Illegals� Are �All Dirty,� Should Be �Checked� Like �Fruits and Vegetables� (http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/09/joe-arpaio-gq-magazine/)
Arpaio Racial Profiling Accusations | Criteria for Determining Illegal Status? (http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/phoenix/sheriff_racial_profiling_accusations_10_20_2009)
Immigration -- Arpaio's Abuse Of Power (http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2009/11/pr20091103)
Here is why it is a slippery slope>
New Study Finds Dramatic Problems with 287(g) Immigration Program | ACLU of North Carolina (http://acluofnc.org/?q=new-study-finds-dramatic-problems-287g-immigration-program)
Increase in unsolved crimes >
http://www.goldwaterinstitute.org/Common/Img/052109%20Bolick%20Justice%20Denied.pdf
In addition to moral blindness, your visual impairment also seems to extend to the physical realm preventing you from even reading the responses to your post.
And you need to do better than just posting links to ACLU and other left leaning websites if you want to forcibly argue your point. Somebody in this forum was pointing out how the majority here seem to favor illegal immigrants. Let me point out that Apraio was elected democratically in 1996, 2000, 2004 and 2008. Apparently voters in his county have a different point of view about illegal immigrants and have no problems voting him again repeatedly.
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whatamidoinghere
08-21 06:48 PM
This is the reason I would not want to give the ASC info. People will start bombarding the office, like they misuse the POJ method calling for nothing.
unbelievable.. cableching, why are you so concerned about ASC? just go home and sleep. I think you had your fun for the day.
unbelievable.. cableching, why are you so concerned about ASC? just go home and sleep. I think you had your fun for the day.
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santb1975
11-22 04:42 PM
how to contribute less than 100$
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santb1975
11-29 01:33 AM
I got this email from one of the So. Cal IV Members after requesting for donations for local chapter activities. I thought this was interesting and should share with Everyone
************************************************** *
Great to see the so cal members contributing....(3 days)
($10*10members) / Total members(100) = 1 dollar/member (and would surely increase)
Whereas in IV website (2 week)
$1185 / 25000 members = 4.7 cents/member
Just a thought..... its TRUE......
************************************************** ****
************************************************** *
Great to see the so cal members contributing....(3 days)
($10*10members) / Total members(100) = 1 dollar/member (and would surely increase)
Whereas in IV website (2 week)
$1185 / 25000 members = 4.7 cents/member
Just a thought..... its TRUE......
************************************************** ****
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sabhayk
06-02 02:24 PM
The letter actually does not mention all degree requirements have been fulfilled. This left me really upset (I asked the dept to fax it directly to company, so I had not seen it).
It says "XYZ completed all coursework requirements for his PhD in EE at the University ABC, and deposited his thesis on April 11 2007. His degree should then be officially conferred in May 13 2007"
Obviously course + thesis = all degree requirements for PhD, but I wonder if USCIS might question it. The company's attorney (a highly reputable company) okayed the letter and he said denial is unlikely and that they will either approve it or issue an RFE; but based on my readings of other posts I think there is a fair chance that it might be denied.
The irony is that I got a letter from the registrar on April 16, but by that time the attorney had already filed with the weaker letter. I asked him to send the other one when quota was still available but he said it was unnecessary.
Please anyone with similar experience comment.
Well I don't know how it works. If the letter actually goes as a proof to USCIS or it simply stays with the lawyer. I would say, just wait and watch now. USCIS might ask you for more evidence. They would not simply reject it. SO don't lose hope.
It says "XYZ completed all coursework requirements for his PhD in EE at the University ABC, and deposited his thesis on April 11 2007. His degree should then be officially conferred in May 13 2007"
Obviously course + thesis = all degree requirements for PhD, but I wonder if USCIS might question it. The company's attorney (a highly reputable company) okayed the letter and he said denial is unlikely and that they will either approve it or issue an RFE; but based on my readings of other posts I think there is a fair chance that it might be denied.
The irony is that I got a letter from the registrar on April 16, but by that time the attorney had already filed with the weaker letter. I asked him to send the other one when quota was still available but he said it was unnecessary.
Please anyone with similar experience comment.
Well I don't know how it works. If the letter actually goes as a proof to USCIS or it simply stays with the lawyer. I would say, just wait and watch now. USCIS might ask you for more evidence. They would not simply reject it. SO don't lose hope.
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BharatPremi
11-19 08:31 PM
I remember you came forward to donate 50$. I thought of a couple of ways to do it. Can you do that through signing up for a 50$ recurring contribution and stop that the follwoing month or you can find a partner to donate the other 50$. We need funds as well to reach our goals
I never claimed any amount for this holiday gift on this thread yet but what if I want to donate $31 or per say $ 81 one time, I do not have that option now and so I will end up not donating now and wait and donate when I feel comfortable with $ 100/- or its multiplications. That is called turning away and if you guys do not see any danger into it I do not have any further words.
Fund raising is an art and I believe our current startegy is lacking that art. If you guys see the base of any major successful fund raising (Grass root level not Political ones, mind well we claim ourselves grass root level organization)you will always find donors with $ 1 to donors with $1 million donatiing as per their will. Grass root level fund raisings can not afford constraints which normally goes successful in political and/or industrial fund raisings.
Some of the strong supporters of current policy, in their argument, automatically assume that willing donor always used to spend $ 100/- frequently for drinks or food and may be living lavish life style. But they are partly wrong in their assumption...I myself never eat outside frequently. Even on a travel trip I cook my food by myself and I normally do not drink sodas or alcohol so what abhijitp has given a example at least does not remain valid for me but I can not say that it is completely out of proportion, as it has some valid logic but it can not be true for everyone.
Point is if we make a wrong based fund raising policy, we may hurt ourselves only. I know my option, if I want to donate odd figure now, I will not be able to donate it now, and I will have to wait till I feel comfortable donating $ 100/- and/or single digit multiplications of $ 100/- but would that be considered a good and wise option?
For an example, I am emotionally charged today and I want to donate $ 61/-(As I may plan that much only..for whatever reasons) but I am not able to donate so I will not donate and say after 4 months I will be able to plan $ 100/- but what if at that time I may not be emotionally charged to donate all together? So end effect would be I will end up donating nothing ( This is just an example..:))
And for the sake of argument if you enrolled yourself $50/- recurring, you did it willingly and so would you change to $ 25/- recurring if $ 25/-option is available to you? (Note: I think most people on this board fear that with having a minimum amount option, most people will turn to that only but that may not be 100% true. and even if it may become true it will end up having more donation flow) For most people answer is no, I believe, They will stick to $ 50/- recurring option as they can afford and they did it willingly. But with current policy we are completely turning away the people who may otherwise donate, for an example $ 20/- monthly-recurring policy may turn 40 new commited donors in whereas $50/- recurring option is creating only 10 donors and thus we may be ending up $ 300/- confirmed donation loss per month. This is just an example and based on assumption that less amount would attract more commited donors.
Having said all this, if majority memebrs and core still feel that this will be the only future standard for accepting donations then as I mentioned above, I will have only one option left and that is to wait till I become comfortable for donating $ 100/- ( I will remain emotionally charged...:))
I never claimed any amount for this holiday gift on this thread yet but what if I want to donate $31 or per say $ 81 one time, I do not have that option now and so I will end up not donating now and wait and donate when I feel comfortable with $ 100/- or its multiplications. That is called turning away and if you guys do not see any danger into it I do not have any further words.
Fund raising is an art and I believe our current startegy is lacking that art. If you guys see the base of any major successful fund raising (Grass root level not Political ones, mind well we claim ourselves grass root level organization)you will always find donors with $ 1 to donors with $1 million donatiing as per their will. Grass root level fund raisings can not afford constraints which normally goes successful in political and/or industrial fund raisings.
Some of the strong supporters of current policy, in their argument, automatically assume that willing donor always used to spend $ 100/- frequently for drinks or food and may be living lavish life style. But they are partly wrong in their assumption...I myself never eat outside frequently. Even on a travel trip I cook my food by myself and I normally do not drink sodas or alcohol so what abhijitp has given a example at least does not remain valid for me but I can not say that it is completely out of proportion, as it has some valid logic but it can not be true for everyone.
Point is if we make a wrong based fund raising policy, we may hurt ourselves only. I know my option, if I want to donate odd figure now, I will not be able to donate it now, and I will have to wait till I feel comfortable donating $ 100/- and/or single digit multiplications of $ 100/- but would that be considered a good and wise option?
For an example, I am emotionally charged today and I want to donate $ 61/-(As I may plan that much only..for whatever reasons) but I am not able to donate so I will not donate and say after 4 months I will be able to plan $ 100/- but what if at that time I may not be emotionally charged to donate all together? So end effect would be I will end up donating nothing ( This is just an example..:))
And for the sake of argument if you enrolled yourself $50/- recurring, you did it willingly and so would you change to $ 25/- recurring if $ 25/-option is available to you? (Note: I think most people on this board fear that with having a minimum amount option, most people will turn to that only but that may not be 100% true. and even if it may become true it will end up having more donation flow) For most people answer is no, I believe, They will stick to $ 50/- recurring option as they can afford and they did it willingly. But with current policy we are completely turning away the people who may otherwise donate, for an example $ 20/- monthly-recurring policy may turn 40 new commited donors in whereas $50/- recurring option is creating only 10 donors and thus we may be ending up $ 300/- confirmed donation loss per month. This is just an example and based on assumption that less amount would attract more commited donors.
Having said all this, if majority memebrs and core still feel that this will be the only future standard for accepting donations then as I mentioned above, I will have only one option left and that is to wait till I become comfortable for donating $ 100/- ( I will remain emotionally charged...:))
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pappu
07-17 06:41 PM
Thanks a lot to all members for being with us in this struggle. We have tasted our first big success this year. Credit goes to each and every IV member. We were all affected by the visa bulletin fiasco and this is our victory. This is a victory for all our members and we must rejoice.
IV had worked very hard and had been pushing for this in the background. Our flower campaign, rally and other advocacy efforts all came together and helped us at a crunch time. We thank members that sent flowers and also walked in the San Jose heat for 4 hours. All that really shows our commitment to this cause.
We are happy that our efforts are successful and IV has been able to make a difference. Please also know that during this effort, IV was extremely active and decision makers heard our voice. We cannot give out all the details but what IV members should know is that these efforts should make each one of us proud and what we can do if we have a firm resolve. We were also the first to break this news even before anyone else or media could, and continued to update our members as time passed.
IV also thanks its contributing members and it is because of their contributions we were able to continue this effort. Many thanks to the members that are contributing now after this good news.
Please continue your support for this organization and be an integral member of this ever growing community, so that this journey can continue and we can end retrogression and have immigrationvoice as our voice.
EDIT: Also, see message from Aman: Click here (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=126814&postcount=215)
Team IV
IV had worked very hard and had been pushing for this in the background. Our flower campaign, rally and other advocacy efforts all came together and helped us at a crunch time. We thank members that sent flowers and also walked in the San Jose heat for 4 hours. All that really shows our commitment to this cause.
We are happy that our efforts are successful and IV has been able to make a difference. Please also know that during this effort, IV was extremely active and decision makers heard our voice. We cannot give out all the details but what IV members should know is that these efforts should make each one of us proud and what we can do if we have a firm resolve. We were also the first to break this news even before anyone else or media could, and continued to update our members as time passed.
IV also thanks its contributing members and it is because of their contributions we were able to continue this effort. Many thanks to the members that are contributing now after this good news.
Please continue your support for this organization and be an integral member of this ever growing community, so that this journey can continue and we can end retrogression and have immigrationvoice as our voice.
EDIT: Also, see message from Aman: Click here (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=126814&postcount=215)
Team IV
Macaca
07-17 08:01 PM
I thank all new contributors, I think the efforts from members in the last 2 weeks are truly inspiring.
If you haven't done already, please consider contributing and donating some money to IV. It is entirely run from our donations (and the shortfall made up by the core team).
Talk is cheap guys, put your money where your mouth is so we can continue fighting for us all! The battle is won, the war is far from over
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25#HowToContribute
:D
I can not believe a Brit can misuse (may I say abuse) english! :) :) :) Don't get mad!
Donate means: To present as a gift to a fund or cause;
IV members are giving to help themselves. It is not a gift to anyone!
If you haven't done already, please consider contributing and donating some money to IV. It is entirely run from our donations (and the shortfall made up by the core team).
Talk is cheap guys, put your money where your mouth is so we can continue fighting for us all! The battle is won, the war is far from over
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25#HowToContribute
:D
I can not believe a Brit can misuse (may I say abuse) english! :) :) :) Don't get mad!
Donate means: To present as a gift to a fund or cause;
IV members are giving to help themselves. It is not a gift to anyone!
chanduv23
12-07 10:39 AM
Saguar, this is not a simple issue and we cannot just this as an independent event. Yes these people are here ilegally but what do they do; work. Yes they work for meagre wages and reduce the price of commodities which would otherwise need to be imported from elsewhere. Now we have heard that due to some of the raids innocent children were torn apart from their parents who never came back from work. children came back from school to learn that they will never see their parents again. whole towns, churches and communities cried out in anguish when such events happen. The pain is tremendous. when you allow a problem to get so deep rooted into the society often the best way to handle it is to first accept it and then plan carefully. You cannot suddenly start deporting a minor fraction of these folks who have indeed contributed to the economy directly/indirectly. You can import cheap goods from other countries but people are now realizing that it is better to import labor and have work done here. This raids and intolerance has an element of hatred mixed in and it is not only about "law". Churches came forward to hide and protect the children who were affected by the raids. shouldn't the children be evicted too??
Very well said. I have been on IV and actively participated in a lot of campaigns and events and interacted with a lot of people from different walks of life, different nationalities, different situations etc ... WHat I have noticed is, everyone has their own opinion and stay entitled to their opinion. Everyone wants to be judgemental through their opinion.
Now, lets all for a moment - step out of our "legal immigrant" shoes and step into the shoes of someone who has to decide what to do? As a decision maker, what will you do? Everyone has their own opinion to which they are entitled and thats whats happening.
Now, ocne again - step out of your legal immigrant shoes, and say, for some reason, you lost status and are deportable - what will be your opinion? Would you say "Shakle me and put me in detention center?"
If you are in poverty and and have no food for 2 days, you may go grab a bread from a store and run to a safe place and eat it - will you talk all these rules about shop lifting .....
If you catch a hungry child shoplifting to eat a bread will you PUNISH him? Ir will you try to do someting to make things better for him?
All you have to do is to come out of "the hate and hard" thinking and try to look at things in "rational and meaningful way"
Hate no one for what they are or how they are. Try to see if you can help. Just help.
I have been living in US for close to 10 years now and though I am proud of fellow Indian community and their achievements, I have also noticed how the community is divided and oponionated. Forming so many sub groups, promoting caste feelings, fighting each other, trying to piut down other fellow community members, lack of unity and what not ....
If everyone in this world want to be considerate and help - then there will certainly be a day when we can see a world without poverty, wars and all the issues we are having today.
Very well said. I have been on IV and actively participated in a lot of campaigns and events and interacted with a lot of people from different walks of life, different nationalities, different situations etc ... WHat I have noticed is, everyone has their own opinion and stay entitled to their opinion. Everyone wants to be judgemental through their opinion.
Now, lets all for a moment - step out of our "legal immigrant" shoes and step into the shoes of someone who has to decide what to do? As a decision maker, what will you do? Everyone has their own opinion to which they are entitled and thats whats happening.
Now, ocne again - step out of your legal immigrant shoes, and say, for some reason, you lost status and are deportable - what will be your opinion? Would you say "Shakle me and put me in detention center?"
If you are in poverty and and have no food for 2 days, you may go grab a bread from a store and run to a safe place and eat it - will you talk all these rules about shop lifting .....
If you catch a hungry child shoplifting to eat a bread will you PUNISH him? Ir will you try to do someting to make things better for him?
All you have to do is to come out of "the hate and hard" thinking and try to look at things in "rational and meaningful way"
Hate no one for what they are or how they are. Try to see if you can help. Just help.
I have been living in US for close to 10 years now and though I am proud of fellow Indian community and their achievements, I have also noticed how the community is divided and oponionated. Forming so many sub groups, promoting caste feelings, fighting each other, trying to piut down other fellow community members, lack of unity and what not ....
If everyone in this world want to be considerate and help - then there will certainly be a day when we can see a world without poverty, wars and all the issues we are having today.
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